MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Moderators: KTeves, pace21

Post Reply
remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Fri May 22, 2020 3:17 pm

I have enjoyed the first 2 MRC COVID 19 challenges, so I am adding one of my own. I am posting this up early and the rules may change a little before the challenge starts, so if there are any changes that should be made, let me know.

Let me start by stealing Jeremy's disclaimer and say:

1) This is not sponsored by Minuteman Road Club or Rees Madsen in any way shape or form
2) If you attempt this challenge, you assume all liability and MRC and/or Rees Madsen are not liable for any injuries or damages you cause or incur. Basically, you are on your own. And since this is not an MRC sponsored event or group ride, you will not be eligible to receive USAC insurance benefits via the MRC policy.
3) In light of the current pandemic situation, please practice social distancing. Bonus if you wear an MRC buff, which performed well in recent wind tunnel testing.

Dates: this will run the first 2 weeks of June 2020. Anything from June 1st through June 14th will be accepted.

Prize Purse: $60
1st place $30
2nd place $20
3rd place $10

The challenge: Climbing as high as you can in 1 minute! Measured in feet via strava analysis. Example below.
Sorry metric lovers, I assumed most of us were using imperial on our stravas.

To try and make it more fair, I am taking away feet based on road racing category and adding bonus feet based on racing age (your age at the end of this calendar year).

For each category above cat 4, you get a 6 foot penalty
Cat 4/5: No penalty.
Cat 3: -5 feet
Cat 2: -10 feet
Cat 1: -15 feet
Pro: -20 feet
*If you a are a masters racer 35+, then your maximum road category will be a cat 3 (Pare is Cat2 35+, but will count as a Cat3 for this challenge)

Those 35 and older get a bonus of 4 feet.
Those 50 and older get a bonus of 8 feet.
Those 65 and older get a bonus of 12 feet.
Those 75 and older get a bonus of 16 feet.

Any females that attempt the challenge get a bonus 15 feet.

The Category bonuses and the gender bonus are roughly estimated from this chart:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/cyclinganalyti ... -table.png

Ties:
If there is a tie, then whoever entered their 1 minute effort with a slower speed wins.
If that is also a Tie, then the person with the higher average speed for their 1 minute wins.

Other rules, must be a solo effort, UCI road race legal gear only (no bikes under 6.8kg!). Any hill anywhere is fine, running starts are fine. Must be a MRC club member in good standing.
To make the research more crucial in finding your hill, no one can use a hill that's been already used.
No throwing your GPS unit!

Example entry: You must include a link with the time analysis, that way it is easy to verify. Also include your racing age and category.
Racing age Under 35, Cat 2.
https://www.strava.com/activities/34910 ... /4837/4897
103 ft climb -10 feet for being cat 2 = 93 feet

It will require that people get on their strava and analyzing their ride, but I thought a challenge that can be done anywhere (except for Florida) would be fun.
Last edited by remad on Wed May 27, 2020 10:57 am, edited 3 times in total.

djming
Chasseur
Posts: 871
Joined: Thu May 14, 2015 6:44 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by djming » Fri May 22, 2020 4:30 pm

remad wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:17 pm
For each category above cat 4, you get a 6 foot penalty
Cat 3: -6 feet
Cat 2: -12 feet
YES, a solid reason why I didn't upgrade last year :D
That plus my old(er) age 10' bonus just might give me a chance..
Dave Mingori

remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Fri May 22, 2020 4:44 pm

djming wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 4:30 pm
remad wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:17 pm
For each category above cat 4, you get a 6 foot penalty
Cat 3: -6 feet
Cat 2: -12 feet
YES, a solid reason why I didn't upgrade last year :D
That plus my old(er) age 10' bonus just might give me a chance..
While making these rules, I did think of you as the odds on favorite for 1st. Maybe we need to give you a mandatory upgrade for this challenge!
Really, I am just hoping that the bonus feet make it a little more competitive.

User avatar
jraguin
Tête de la course
Posts: 1372
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:27 pm
Location: Acton, MA

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by jraguin » Sat May 23, 2020 10:36 am

Ooooh, nice job designing this one Rees. I need to work on my short power so this is a good one to encourage that training!

John

User avatar
Jacob
Peloton
Posts: 460
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:14 pm
Location: Arlington, MA

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by Jacob » Sun May 24, 2020 3:48 pm

Racing age Over 35, Cat 3.
https://www.strava.com/activities/34983 ... /3508/3568
133 ft climb -6 feet for being cat 3 +5 feet for being over 35 = 132 feet

(edit: moving my start time 6 seconds later gained me an additional 9 feet)
Last edited by Jacob on Sun May 24, 2020 3:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
KTeves
Tête de la course
Posts: 1398
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:29 pm
Location: Boylston, MA

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by KTeves » Sun May 24, 2020 3:58 pm

Jacob wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:48 pm
Racing age Over 35, Cat 3.
https://www.strava.com/activities/34983 ... /3502/3562
124 ft climb -6 feet for being cat 3 +5 feet for being over 35 = 123 feet
"Anything from June 1st through June 14th will be accepted." 😲
KT

remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Sun May 24, 2020 4:33 pm

KTeves wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:58 pm
Jacob wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:48 pm
Racing age Over 35, Cat 3.
https://www.strava.com/activities/34983 ... /3502/3562
124 ft climb -6 feet for being cat 3 +5 feet for being over 35 = 123 feet
"Anything from June 1st through June 14th will be accepted." 😲
You are a little early. The challenge has not started yet, but that would be a really good result.

User avatar
Jacob
Peloton
Posts: 460
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:14 pm
Location: Arlington, MA

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by Jacob » Sun May 24, 2020 4:37 pm

remad wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 4:33 pm
KTeves wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:58 pm
Jacob wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:48 pm
Racing age Over 35, Cat 3.
https://www.strava.com/activities/34983 ... /3502/3562
124 ft climb -6 feet for being cat 3 +5 feet for being over 35 = 123 feet
"Anything from June 1st through June 14th will be accepted." 😲
You are a little early. The challenge has not started yet, but that would be a really good result.
No problem!

User avatar
JeremyC
Tête de la course
Posts: 1937
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:04 pm
Location: Stow, MA

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by JeremyC » Tue May 26, 2020 11:35 am

Quick question, if the segment is longer than 1 minute, what's the best way to determine how many feet you climbed during the "best" 1 minute?

User avatar
Fintan
Chasseur
Posts: 797
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:28 am
Location: Westborough
Contact:

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by Fintan » Tue May 26, 2020 11:40 am

One way is to zoom in to a one minute window on the Analysis screen. The height is displayed on the right.
The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts.

remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Tue May 26, 2020 2:13 pm

JeremyC wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:35 am
Quick question, if the segment is longer than 1 minute, what's the best way to determine how many feet you climbed during the "best" 1 minute?
When analyzing your ride you can highlight a section of the ride to view. In my example:

https://www.strava.com/activities/3491062503/analysis/4837/4897

You can see the two numbers 4837 and 4897 (I made them red for clarity, but that also makes it so that the link is not clickable), you can shift these, keeping them 60 (seconds) apart to try and maximize your gain. Your net elevation change will be on the screen next to the word "selection". The strava phone app is not able to do this type of analysis, so you will need to do it from a computer.

It is this net elevation number that will be used, so any downhill in the effort will count against you.

strat
Domestique
Posts: 237
Joined: Tue May 03, 2016 11:44 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by strat » Wed May 27, 2020 3:08 am

Erm...is a Strava subscription needed to access this feature?

remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Wed May 27, 2020 7:05 am

strat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:08 am
Erm...is a Strava subscription needed to access this feature?
No, it’s not. You can analyze your ride with the free version.

remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Wed May 27, 2020 7:28 am

With there being some confusion about how to analyse strava for this challenge, I will plan on making a short tutorial video to post up before the start of the challenge.

remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Wed May 27, 2020 7:41 am

Or I can let GPLama do the tutorial for me! the 20 second clip from 10:10 to 10:30 shows most of what you need. He zooms into a section that is 4 minutes long, but you can continue zooming in until you have a 1 minute section selected.

Once you have zoomed into a 1 minute section, I would suggest editing your URL to make small, 1 second adjustments, to try and maximize your gain.


User avatar
JeremyC
Tête de la course
Posts: 1937
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:04 pm
Location: Stow, MA

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by JeremyC » Wed May 27, 2020 7:50 am

Your initial tutorial worked, although it took me 97 tries to drag the window to exactly 1 minute. I think one of our software programers should write a script to automatically extract this data from the ride URL.

remad
Peloton
Posts: 284
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by remad » Wed May 27, 2020 11:00 am

After some discussion, a "Pare Clause" has been added, as well as a slight reduction in the bonus/penalty points. The rules are still subject to change until the challenge starts. If there are any changes that you think need to be made to make the challenge more fair, there is still time to let me know (I would prefer a direct message).

strat
Domestique
Posts: 237
Joined: Tue May 03, 2016 11:44 am

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by strat » Thu May 28, 2020 1:11 am

remad wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 7:05 am
strat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:08 am
Erm...is a Strava subscription needed to access this feature?
No, it’s not. You can analyze your ride with the free version.
Thanks Rees. Now I know how my parents must've felt every time they asked me to set the VCR for them!!

User avatar
jraguin
Tête de la course
Posts: 1372
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:27 pm
Location: Acton, MA

Re: MRC COVID 19 Climbing Challenge.

Post by jraguin » Thu May 28, 2020 8:54 am

strat wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:11 am
remad wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 7:05 am
strat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:08 am
Erm...is a Strava subscription needed to access this feature?
No, it’s not. You can analyze your ride with the free version.
Thanks Rees. Now I know how my parents must've felt every time they asked me to set the VCR for them!!
Just pay for the subscription. It is worth it.

Post Reply